Team Prenda “Crowd Funding” Project – AKA: John Steele Can’t Shut-Up, 2:12-cv-00262 (GA)

SR1There is nothing so sweet as to read a babbling document from a local Team Prenda stooge on the last day of 2013.  Sometimes reading such a document (SUPPLEMENTAL CERTIFICATE OF INTERESTED PERSONS AND CORPORATE DISCLOSURE STATEMENTDoc92_ Supp_Disclosure_00262(GA)) seems like a waste of time and nothing of value was stated.  But on a deeper inspection, this document has much more to say – on what it admits, omits, and the questions it begs.  Troll Jacques Nazaire files this certificate in case 2:12-cv-00262, AF Holdings LLC, v. Rajesh Patel.  Docket


Troll Nazaire claims only Mark Lutz owns 10% or more of AF Holdings LLC, to include any parent or publicly held corporation.  In addition he states that “He” has no “certificates” that show that Liverwire Holdings LLC, Prenda Law, Paul Duffy, or John Steele own an interest in AF Holdings LLC.  This section is written to try to use “plausible deniability” to shield him from liability/sanctions if/when information to the contrary is brought forth.  It is a weak effort and any judge is going to see the move as sad and suspect.


The next section lists out the parties who have either a “financial” or “other” interest in the outcome of this case.  The interested parties are Prenda Law (Principle Paul Duffy), Comcast Cable, Brett Gibbs, Paul Hansmeier, Livewire Holdings LLC, “Salt Marsh,” John Steele, and Under The Bridge Consulting.

The addition of Brett Gibbs is likely the continued attempt to try to shift the blame onto him and shield the main Prenda crew.  If this doesn’t make Gibbs back down (doubtful), it can only force him to further divulge the inner working of the Prenda Law operation to save his a$$.  The quoting of the “Salt Marsh” by Troll Nazaire is interesting and possibly another attempt to mislead and confuse the court.  The one I got a laugh at was “Under The Bridge Consulting” (UBC).  By listing UBC, Team Prenda has just validated the spreadsheet Brett Gibbs provided, showing the various funds going in and out of the operation and especially the large payments to John Steele and Paul Hansmeier.  Now they can argue that the data is not accurate (or fraudulently inputted by Gibbs), but it is the same Prenda tactic of doing too little too late.  Keep trying guys!

Crowd Funding

Troll Nazaire hints there may have been some sort of “Crowd Funding” (or may not have) involved in the set up of AF Holdings LLC, to include the crowd funding issuer and investors that provided funds.  Troll Nazaire makes sure he states that “he” has no information to provide any legal or factual determination as to the crowd funding.  Then why even bring it up???  I smell a rat.  He mentions the “Jumpstart Our Business Startups Act,” Sec. 2, Title III, so they may be trying to use some aspect of this Act to shield or delay release of information.  Obviously the funds to start this operation had to come from somewhere and someone.  I wonder who???  I don’t know this Act, but the mention of it is highly suspect in my opinion.

Troll Nazaire closes by stating that even though the defense has subpoenaed other attorneys in this case, he cannot verify if these attorneys were “serving” attorneys for AF Holdings LLC.  The more I read this dribble, the more I hear John Steele’s voice trying to invoke various technicalities as to why he is not liable.

THE COURT: But it is your case, you are responsible for it. It is your case, you filed it. There seems to be —

MR. STEELE: I didn’t file it.

THE COURT: There seems to be — what do you mean you didn’t file it? You entered your appearance in it.

MR. STEELE: Right. But I did not file this case.

THE COURT: Do you think that makes a difference —


THE COURT: — if you enter your appearance in a case that’s pointless, worthless, a sham?

(Pages 25-26, Pending Motion Hearing, 13 Nov 13, Lightspeed Media Corp., v. Anthony Smith, 3:12-cv-00889 (SDIL)) Hear_Trans_00889(IL)

Closing Out 2013

I’m sure we will have more to come in 2014.  Malibu Media/X-Art/Troll Lipscomb is next big Troll, but others are still testing their efforts.

In closing I want to wish everyone a good new year and leave you with a fine Scottish toast and a song.

May those who love us love us;
And those that don’t love us,
May God turn their hearts:
And if He doesn’t turn their hearts
May he turn their ankles,
So we’ll know them by their limping.

PCards2DieTrollDie 🙂

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13 Responses to Team Prenda “Crowd Funding” Project – AKA: John Steele Can’t Shut-Up, 2:12-cv-00262 (GA)

  1. I am so glad to see you had the patience to write what others were thinking.
    Prenda is a mystery, in that clinically interesting way.

    Best wishes for a happy new year, DTD.

  2. that anonymous coward says:

    This title may be cited as the “Capital Raising Online While Deterring Fraud and Unethical Non-Disclosure Act of 2012” or the “CROWDFUND Act”.


    So one can only imagine the loopholes in it…

  3. Anonymous says:

    I believe the crowdfunder is referring to Blair Chintella and Andrew Norton’s crowdsourced Lutz deposition and transcripts fundraiser on PitchInBox, not anything to do with AF or Prenda. The judge had called this out as being maybe improper but he wasn’t really sure because he hadn’t seen it before, so I assume Nazaire tossed it in under “interested parties” because it’s not like he has anything substantial to work with. The judge wasn’t exactly sympathetic to Prenda bullshit but you know our boys, if they think it might buy them a 30-second delay arguing with the judge before the next six-figure sanctions award drops, they’ll take it!

    • DieTrollDie says:

      I did think this could be what they are referring to, but in True Prenda fashion it isn’t clear.

      DTD 🙂

    • DieTrollDie says:

      I took another look at the document and one thing that is missing is an “interested” party of Blair Chinella and/or the members of the crowd funding effort. That leads me to believe it is something else/

      DTD 🙂

    • DonaldB says:

      What is the point of this updated document?

      It seems to be Nazaire trying to cover himself with a “maybe they are, maybe they aren’t. Look! Over there! A pretty color! Crowdfunding!”

      I expect this judge will mostly ignore it. Or worse, use it to justify letting Nazaire off the hook. But a there are so many caveats that should raise red flags, and more questions.

      Perhaps the Crowdfunding mention isn’t actually a red herring. They might be trying to rewrite the corporate shell structure so that it was ‘crowdfunded’ and use the protections that the law offers. Hey guys (I know they read this), other people can look at a calendar too — you can’t claim protection under a law that didn’t exist when you set up your scam.

      Is this the first time that ‘Under the Bridge’ has been mentioned in filings (apart from the disclosed financial info in Gibb’s appeal/plea to Wright)? Doesn’t this open the door for a question about the interested parties there?

      Steele and Hansmeier are now listed as interested parties. They are not listed as having a financial interest. If questioned I’m certain that will be brushed off as a trivial issue or an oversight, or covered by the mentioned of Under-the-bridge.

      • DieTrollDie says:

        I think it is just another chance for them to claim that the main Prenda members are not the owners of AF Holdings – and thus not a party to this – AKA: “Please don’t sanction me!”. It is funny that they initially state there is no parent corporation that holds 10% or more of AF Holdings; but then admit that Mark Lutz owns 10% or more in AF Holdings. Of course they do not say exactly how much.

        I looked through the docket again and noted Doc #88. In this 29 Apr 13, corporate disclosure sheet, Blair Chintella lists the following as interested partys – Rajesh Patel, AF Holdings, Brett Gibbs, John Steele, Mark Lutz, “Salt Marsh,” Paul Duffy, Jacques Nazaire, Blair Chintella, Livewire Holdings, LLC, Prenda Law, Inc., Paul Hansmeier, & Under the Bridge Consulting. — So Blair Chintella mentions UBC first (footnote) –

        Defendant lists this entity because it was recently listed in a filing by Brett Gibbs as receiving hundreds of thousands of dollars attributable to settlement monies received by Prenda Law, Inc.
        See Ingenuity 13, LLC v. John Doe (consolidated with cases involving AF Holdings); Case No. 2:12-cv-08333-ODW-JC; ECF #240-7, pages 4-5 (filed 10/17/2013). It’s unclear from Mr. Gibbs’s filing whether
        the entity is an Inc. or an LLC, for example.

        Since there is so much Prenda BS being floated around, it is hard to keep up with all the various answers/statements/etc. One that is interesting is a letter from John Steele’s attorney David Raben, 26 Jan 12. Mr. Raben was representing John Steele in a complaint of practicing law in FL without a license.
        So, John Steel does have financial interest in some of Prenda’s “larger clients.” The last line is great – John is a client of Prenda Law – Prenda Law only works copyright infringement cases dealing with porn.

        DTD 🙂

      • DieTrollDie says:

        Troll Joseph Perea (6 Feb 12) has the following to state concerning John Steele’s TWO companies who are clients of Prenda Law. Which Two????? AF Holding and Ingenuity 13???

        DTD 🙂

  4. great catch on the UBC.

  5. SJD says:

    Happy New Year!

  6. Raul says:

    Yes! Happy New Year DTD! Hoping porn trolls implode in 2014.

  7. falcon789 says:

    Good catch on the UBC, I totally missed that. Happy New Year ya’ll!

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